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Yah' shua or Jesus or All Be Lie?
I’ve seen this image and other related ones in some articles a lot. How true is this and what do you know about it?
Kindly share any source of material for learning and truth seeking purposes if you have.
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probably the only “truth” is cesare borgia used as the protype for the image of the mythological figure called “jesus”…
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@AgyaKwadwo ”mythological figure”….🤔
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@OHENENANA can’t prove someone named jesus or yeshua\yah’shua ever existed. They seem to be just remixed stories taken from the one in Kmt (e.g. Heru), and perhaps those that predated Kmt.
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@AfroN8V can you help me with some materials to read on it?
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@OHENENANA Baba Tony Browder covers a lot of it. As well as Obenfo Obadele. Here is one of Baba Browder’s articles: https://open.substack.com/pub/browderfile/p/the-african-origins-of-christianity?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
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Jesus or Yeshua never existed. Jesus/Yeshua is a fake, fairytale, cartoon character that the Jews made up for mind control.
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@KwabenaOsei I’ve heard that part as well but….🤔
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I’ve been reading through the different takes here, and I’m honestly approaching this from a place of learning. It seems like a few different things are being mixed together, so I’m trying to separate them clearly. First, on the question of existence; outside of the bible, I’ve seen references from historians like Tacitus and Flavius Josephus mentioning a man executed under Roman authority. That makes me think there could have been a real historical figure, even if not everything written about him is historically provable. Second, the name. From what I understand, “Jesus” is a later translation that came through Greek and Latin, while “Yeshua” would have been closer to the original. So the name itself seems to be more about language evolution than proof of whether the person is real or not. Third, the religion side of things. From what I’m learning, the man himself and his early followers didn’t create what we now call Christianity. That seems to have developed later as the message spread and was shaped across different empires and cultures. Now this is where I’m especially curious, Abibiman’s role in all this. When I look into ancient Kemet and figures like Horus (Heru), I do Believe and have an idea(yet to read more on it) that Abibiman already had deeply developed spiritual systems long before this period. So I’m wondering: Are some of the ideas in later religions influenced by earlier Abibiman spiritual systems? If yes, to what extent is that influence symbolic, shared human patterns, or direct borrowing? At the same time, I’m trying to be careful not to jump to conclusions without solid evidence. So where I’m at right now is this: * Was there a real historical figure? * How much of the story is history vs belief? * How much was shaped later by institutions and power? * And where exactly does Abibiman’s earlier knowledge and spirituality fit into all this? I’m very much open to learning, especially from verifiable sources, not just sentiments or personal feelings.
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@Ohenenana excellent discussion that may be better approached in a discussion live exchange. There have been extensive research on these questions. Open to set up live open discussion series?
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@AgyaKwadwo That will be great. And I believe probably the elders would take it up cos we(me especially) are just baby students in such matters
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