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        Ọbádélé Kambon, PhD posted an update in the group Group logo of Afrikan Warrior TraditionAfrikan Warrior Tradition

        6 years ago

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        Why are there so many Capoeira teachers who you never see actually spar or fight? How do they test out whether what they are teaching is correct or not?

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          Why? Possible reasons…
          A- their teacher has little to zero experience in fighting, and the last time they fought was in grade school
          B- their teacher is not familiar with violent situations (meaning, they have not encountered a person with the intent to bodily harm to them) and thus lacks the experience to be able to teach it from that perspective
          C- have not been ambushed and thus unaware on how to use capoeira against multiple attackers
          D- I’m not interested in other arts
          E- I only practice for the exercise and fitness
          F- This is a “family” training center, we don’t focus on such things
          G- is unconfortable with inflicting massive damage to another person

          6 years ago
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            Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé
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            These are good possibilities to be considered @intwinaka

            6 years ago
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            That’s the conundrum. You want to train your student to be a fierce fighter but
            because the fighting style is extremely effective, you feel you have to hold back
            to avoid injuring them.

            …so how is the student supposed to go from 30% (training) effort to 100% (real fight)
            without ever experiencing 100% being executed?
            I feel it’s best to do 100% sometimes because losing a fight in real life can be fatal

            6 years ago
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              less power but full execution of the techniques.
              as for fighting…it is whoever gets the first injury is the most likely one to walk away, getting that takes training, understanding concepts, structure, reflexes, tactics along with understanding the environment that you are in. this takes a teacher that has been in these kinds of situations to be able to teach it in that way.

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              Is that how you train Ochiel?

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                I used to do kick-boxing back in 2011 as part of my fitness programme. At times the instructor would tell the advanced students that he is going to execute technuqies at full power so they can get a feel and respond accordingly.

                6 years ago
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                That type of Capoeira is comparable to Tai Chi,

                – It’s a great workout
                – Fun because of the drumming and singing
                – Rejuvenates the soul

                However that type of Capoeira isn’t a combat system. As long as you’re not in it for combat, then it’s all good.

                6 years ago
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                  @tenkamenin, ɛno yɛ mmuaeɛ pa. Na mmom, mehunu asɛm no sɛ, sɛ obiara renhwe wo mmoro wo da a, ɛyɛ. Nanso hwan na ɔnim da a obi bɛba abɛha no?

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                    the video is a bit too dark, better light would help alot

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                      Thanks for the feedback @intwinaka

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                      @tenkamenin, Capoeira is just as ruthless as the others, it comes down to who is the insturctor along with whatever effort you’ve put into it. tai chi is also ruthless, and that also comes down to who is teaching it. the majority of teachers teaching tai chi do not focus on the combat elements of it.

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                      Nana, sɛ wontumi ko a, wobɛtumi adwane.

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                        Bro Intwinaka, I agree, Tai Chi is a martial art but the popular version of it focuses on internal exercises. I’m not so sure that people practice Capoeira for self-defense. When I was practicing Capoeira, I believe most of the people wanted to be flexible, dance, sing and drum. However, my studio also taught BJJ, Eskrima (stick fighting), and Capoeira self defense which incorporated weapons and grappling. I can tell you the self-defense class was the least popular because there was sparring involved.

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                          I can tell you the self-defense class was the least popular because there was sparring involved…this is a problem with many schools, and there is an issue on both sides, one being the instructor and the other being the students expectations. People dont want to get their hands dirty, the like the idea of defending themselves but the stuff that comes with it. There will have to be a change in how and what is being taught in “martial art” schools today.
                          I run a school as well and i say upfront what the deal is before anyone starts.

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                            I’ve observed the same.

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                          Sɛ wo tamfo tumi tu mmirika kyɛn wo a, woawu ne no. @tenkamenin

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                            Great topic here with lots of great view points. I do feel like times are beginning to change and people are actually looking to become better in combat. It’s important that teaches are truly teaching students how to properly train with the intent of actual combat. If not what’s the point?

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