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This conversation centered on identity just won’t end. See for yourself.
4 years ago ·13 Comments-
I saw a snippet of the interview and agreed with the point he(Tariq) made about how some continentals benefit from the foundation laid by diaspora Afrikaans, but some try distancing themselves or trying to ‘act funny’ towards AAs. Typically, I am very vocal to those types of Afrikans if I have run ins with them.
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Thank you Sister for your reply. I say both of the panelists have valid points. The only thing I don’t agree with Tariq is changing our identity to FBA- Foundational Black Americans. I don’t see a problem with African American. It draws a connection from both worlds – the one where many of our African ancestors came from and our existence being in America for many generations. To say that AAs are not from Africa is an insult to our ancestors, especially the ones who fought to maintain whatever African customs they brought with them (ex. the Gullah/Geechee people). I don’t think we’ll ever be Americans. I understand our ancestors built the country. However, we, as a group, do not have complete control of the government system in order to change those racist policies. It’s just an AA here, a AA there, the first AA in this and that. We need at least over 60% of AAs in most of those government positions and have full control of the Law Enforcement industry. Until that happens, we’ll continue to be screaming, shouting, marching, and protesting to convince white Americans to change their ways.-
I dont agree with the FBA label either or ADOS either. Anything that makes it appear as if Im ashamed to be called Afrikan, but wish to be identified as ‘AmerIKKKan’ is something I cannot agree with. Btw, the other panelist made valid points as well.
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@lynnd, you said “I don’t see a problem with African American” then you said ” I don’t think we’ll ever be Americans”. Do you see how these two are contradictory statements?-
Oh, now that I’m reading it again, yes. What I meant to say is that even though the Africans in America will never be full citizens in America, many of us refer being called African-American because It combines both worlds – the one where many of our African ancestors came from and our existence being in America for many generations. Many of us, Including myself, were brought up to identify ourselves as that and that we should make the best of both worlds, at least that was what I was taught.
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Ɔdɛnkyɛm da nsuo mu da da a, ɛrennane ɔdɛnkyɛm. Lu bant yàgg-yàgg ci ndox du tax mu soppaliku mukk jasig. amerikkkan is a noun while Afrikan is the adjective modifying and describing that noun. To say Afrikan amerikkkan is to describe a particular type of amerikkkan, not a particular type of Afrikan. In that configuration it would have the same import as saying a happy amerikkkan, a blue amerikkkan or any other adjective in its place. This is why you were brought up to identify as Afrikan amerikkkan, because aamw decided that that is what you would be called and identified as because it serves their interests to foment greater stockholm-syndrome induced confusion with regard to loyalty and allegiance through mis-naming those who uncritically accept that they are a type of amerikkkan.
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With all due respect, it’s been years and years ago that I identified as being ‘AmeriKKKan.’ I dropped that identification long ago and have no intent of using it to describe myself as such ever again. I try my level best not to co-sign or cape for anything representing AmeriKKKa other than learning about the history of Afrikans in AmeriKKKa and the AmeriKKKas in general. However, in defense of those like myself who have lived here most my life and were not raised to be pan Afrikan and who currently are not around a physical, tangible support system of fellow pan Afrikans, but ‘made in AmeriKKKa’ kinds of ‘negros,’ then it can be difficult for them/us to continue remaining steadfast in their/our Afrikan identify(not me though). Some cave in to fit in because of lack of support from people they hang with. Me, I stay to myself mostly so I’m not faced as much with that challenge, yet being here and born and raised in AmeriKKKa, brainwashed to cape for and co sign on all things Western it can rub off on you/us to say or do something(s)clearly rooted in AmeriCON ‘culture.’ Then when you go to Afrika and continental Afrikans are steadily trying to press their ideas that you are ‘AmeriKKKan’ because they hold AmeriKKKa in high esteem(white people, many love them just like many of their diaspora cousins)and you try explaining to them why you don’t identify with that noun ‘AmeriKKKan’ can be very exasperating. But I let them know real quick that I’m as Afrikan than them even moreso actually, as they, just like many in the diaspora, identify with their oppressors. I know I may have gone off on a tangent, but I wrote all that to say that it’s been years upon years since I called myself AmeriKKKan anything. If I write it in comments it’s usually spelled with three Ks and you know why that is. I will also write it with ‘ ‘ or put ‘so-called’ in front of it to let all who read know I do not stand with AmeriKKKa.
Addemdum: I don’t particularly care if we have any representation in any part of this government or so called entertainment or any other sector of AmeriKKKa. Because to be appointed or chosen as a ‘first’ or ‘second’ or any other number comes with strings to promote craKKKa agendas. My eyes are on not trying to make it work here or fighting for anything. Ive wasted a great part of my life believing that I was obligated to remain here and just be satisfied. Repatriation is my destination not the AmeriKKKan nation.-
Received. Well said. I understand your sentiment and I concur.
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The amount of misinformation that Tariq Nasheed laid out right here is worrying… particularly because he has a large following that are unlikely to question these statements.-
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@shakara I couldn’t listen to the whole thing. Misinformation of the worst caliber.
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@ ShakaRa Yes, he does have a large following; however, he’s not the only one spreading out misinformation. Tariq is also the guy who made several documentaries like the “Hidden Colors Series” and a documentary about the Haitian Revolution. He really thinks that the African people in America are the Indigenous Americans. I’m like tell that to the Cherokee, Blackfoot, Iroquois, etc. and let’s see what they think.
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You can read in the forums about the revolt of the Black people who were enslaved by the cherokee.
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I agree … its not just him. Its a growing school of thought specifically designed to create seemingly viable justifications for allegiances to american empire. This is why the unprovoked attack against Pan-Afrikanism has been waged…
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