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Members of the Black collective have to be careful and strategic when talking about racism (White supremacy) with members of the White collective because White people have been traumatized by what they’ve done to Black people. One of the symptom clusters for trauma-related disorders such as PTSD is avoidance symptoms, and that feature often appears as deflections, denial, or tearfulness when speaking about racism with Whites. It’s similar to when a war veteran who has engaged in combat returns back from war and they’re traumatized. They’re not only traumatized by what they saw, but they what they did (killed and maimed people). Whites need to process this in therapy because avoiding contact with one’s past (distant or proximate) will increase the probability that the past is repeated because it’s not being confronted.
Adjoa Malaika Gathoni and Kwabena17 Comments-
it seems that Afrikan=Black people should be considerate about their
mental health space. They need to be in therapy, who will do this
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I don’t think they’ve been “traumatized”. Certainly not as a collective. They may be fearful of a reckoning though but that’s not anything new.
And I think it is illogical to say the least to even want to engage in conversation with our enemies.
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@NonMwenSe do you think those of European decent were traumatized by the resource scarce, violent, glacial environment of Ice Age Europe?
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That is an interesting question. I don’t know really. I still wonder about that theory from time to time. Generally, I tend to disagree with it.
How true that theory may be may prove to be irrelevant as far as what must be done now.
And it’s a question that may only be answered by having clear evidence of what transpired possibly hundreds of thousands of years ago.
The way I see it, they are a disorderly people. How that came about? Idk. The solution? I don’t know if there is one.
If they are a sick people, can they be cured?
The question here though is this: would they still be “white people” if they were cured?
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@NonMwenSe I think there’s utility to seeing them as sick and there’s anthropological and historical evidence to support the theory we’re discussing. That trauma was likely transmitted epigenetically and via social learning. Now, whether or not they’ll seek a cure, that’s another matter, but we should at least see them as sick, and make sure we don’t contract there diseases. Here’s a video I made on the matter:
The Prehistoric, Ancient and Medieval Violent Trauma of Europeans
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One of the reasons I tend to disagree with that theory is that it says they became like they are. Due to scarcity.
Perhaps this is idealistic but can a people who is humane really become inhumane due to scarcity? Especially to the point of establishing a way of life that is the antithesis of what is a humane way to live?
And can we really categorize this as trauma? They are literally being themselves as far as I can tell. If they were humane they wouldn’t exist. If a vampire doesn’t seek to consume the blood of others it will wither away. How can a vampire cure itself from being a vampire? It’s a vampire.
That’s how I see it.
(I’ll check out the link later)
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Watched the video you posted.
The issues that were listed: What do you think should be done to address them?
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@NonMwenSe I think they have to undergo re-education and psychotherapy in order to address the trauma they are unaware of. From there, they ought to repair the harm done to other groups via reparative justice (reparations). A problem cannot be solved until it’s properly diagnosed, though. The problem is that White culture was born in an Ice Age, resource scarce, Neanderthal environment, which made Europeans the most violent group on the planet in order to survive such conditions. Listen to Dr. Kambon reference how the ancient Kemites viewed Eurasians in the way I described: https://youtu.be/tXQ1PRDanj0?si=doSc9ndMASqvyqyx
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does that excuse their behaviour? no.
if they wanted to change on their own, they would.
as Nana Amos Wilson said, they do what they because they want to.
the question is what are we willing to do to stop them from continuing?
sabotage, violence, infiltration with the intent to dow discontent, forced sterlization-
@Mālàmī ߕߍߣߍ @Nduku it certainly does not excuse it. An explanation is not an excuse, but even a 2-year-old constantly asks, “why?” Some people act without thinking, whereas others think without acting. We need both.
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“They have to undergo re-education.”
What???
Can you re-educate a lion not to behave like a lion?
Can you re-educate a hyena not to behave like a hyena?
Can you re-educate a fox not to be have like a fox?
Can you re-educate a snake not to behave like a snake?
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“they have to undergo re-education and psychotherapy in order to address the trauma they are unaware of”
“A problem cannot be solved until it is properly diagnosed”
Isn’t this a contradiction?
If one is unaware of their trauma, how can they address it?
Or are you saying that it is on us to “cure” them?And would they even say that they are traumatized? Would they even care?
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I think this is potentially another case of us confusing our nature with theirs.
A lot of times, it seems that we think they are capable of the level of reasoning, empathy etc etc that is natural to us.
That is not the case. If in doubt, just look at the evidence. Current and past.
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And yea, I know about those writings.
And yup, even back then too in KMT we were trying to see why “eurasians” were like they were (and still are). We wondered then too if it was due to scarcity.
Here’s one of the things that’s not being addressed in regards to this theory:
If scarcity made them like this, why didn’t the abundance (that they stole) “fix” them?
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@NonMwenSe that’s a good question. I think their psychology is still governed by the mentality that was born out of the Ice Age era, and there’s a perpetual fear of losing what has been acquired. I think the culture of White collective is sick, and an explanation is not an excuse. If one knows what a people are like, and why they are the way that they are (even if they don’t recognize it), it would behoove one to remain vigilant.
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I think the jury is still out on why they are the way they are.
Regardless, we know how they are. We been know.
And I think there is a very clear solution to this problem.
The question is, how many of us actually want to address it?
I think this theory is more about us ignoring the problem and trying to get along with it and not really about taking action to solve it.
Proponents of this theory are asking for reason where reason doesn’t exist.
I think addressing this problem is very simple.
“Whoever is in control of the hell in your life, is your devil.”
– The Great Nana John Henrik Clarke
An investigation can be had after we’ve stopped all of the attacks against us.
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does that excuse their behaviour? no.
if they wanted to change on their own, they would.
as Nana Amos Wilson said, they do what they because they want to.
the question is what are we willing to do to stop them from continuing?
sabotage, violence, infiltration with the intent to dow discontent, forced sterlization
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