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      E kùrọ̀lẹ́! Thoughts on Sobonfu Some? Recently heard that she said that gays/homosexuals/batty man hold the key to opening multiple dimensions and have a key spiritual role….. 🤔🧐 this doesnt sit right with me, and id love to hear your thoughts.

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        @Kwadwo_Danmeara glad to see I’m not alone.. was listening to a conversation from ancestral voices, and while I heard many gems throughout, this one had me pause real quick lol

      • Kwabena (edited)
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        I have never been really attracted to Sobonfu Some or her husband. I know her and her husband are respected in Black “African” spirituality circles, but deep in my heart, there was something about her and her husband that just turned me off from them.

        Whenever I watched a lecture from them, they are ALWAYS surrounded by white folks AND hugging up on white folks, especially the husband. And there are “alleged” rumors that the husband was messing with white women before he married Sonbonfu Some, and also after her untimely death.

        And to make matters worse they are exposing our Ancestral knowledge, wisdom and science to white folks and these same white folks will write a book claiming they are the ones who discovered and came up with the Ancestral science, knowledge, wisdom that they clearly stole from our Ancestors.

        Them ALWAYS been surrounded by nothing but white people, just rub me the wrong way.

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          @KwabenaOsei I agree with you. Maybe it’s just my imagination but I remember seeing a video of her speaking and wasn’t feeling her vibe.. something about her seems unstrustworthy. Being around krakkas all the time and having their approval is a definite minus from me, and then promoting this lgbt Batty nonsense makes me want to dismiss her completely. Not surprised to hear about the husband fooling around with Karen’s and Ashley’s

          • Kwabena (edited)
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            @makiyasmack
            And I bet you, she wouldn’t be promoting and endorsing the homosexual gay LGBTQA++ deathstyle in her hometown in Burkina.
            Once you start getting close to white people, then their crakkkertosis yurugu virus starts spreading fast inside you and starts killing you like the HIV/AIDS virus and cancer.

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          @Kwabena I did not know that background on them, but i will say whenever you have backrademics/krakkkademics endorsing a continental scholar on our “traditions” — i assume alphabet mafia and/or liberal bakra females are backing them.

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            @taharka2018
            Yes. It is a well known rumor among the “African spirituality” circles, that the husband used to mess with white women and went back to white women after his wife, Sobonfu Some, untimely death (I believe she died from some kind of virus or bacterial infection in her stomach. I read that they perform all kinda of medical procedures and tests on her and couldn’t find where her bacterial or virus infection was coming from). And as Makiya said, she probably was messing with white men also.
            Both of them spiritual vibes just turn me off.
            Like I said, every time I see them in a lecture video, they are surrounded by nothing but white people.

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          Sadly she did make these comments years ago. I don’t like the fact that they share so much knowledge with crakkkas. I’ve read some of the Some’s books and the knowledge is really profound but it should be for us only.

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          Wen dis batty bwoy tel mi fi read ar book mi know seh sopm nuh right LOL

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          She has a chapter dedicated to Homosexuality in her book “The Spirt of Intimacy”

          “The word, gay and lesbian do not exist in the village, but there is the word gatekeeper. Gatekeepers are people who live a life at the edge between two worlds, the world of the village and the world of spirits. Though they do not marry in this world, they say they have partners and other dimensions.

          There are many gates that link a village to other worlds. The only people have access to all these gates are the gate keepers.

          Gatekeepers hold the keys to other dimensions. They maintain a certain alignment between the spirit world and the world of the village. Without them, the gates to the other world would be shut.

          On the other side of these gates, lies the spirit world or other dimensions. Gatekeepers are in constant communication with beings Who live there, who have the ability to teach us how to deal with ritual. And gatekeepers have the capacity to take other people to those places.

          A gatekeepers knowledge is different from the knowledge of mentors and elders. This is because elders do not necessarily have access to all the gateways. The gatekeepers, on the other hand, have access to all the dimensions. They can open any gate. Although their knowledge is very broad, elders will call upon gatekeeper to help them open a particular gate or help them better understand what the spirit world is about. “

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            @Tenkamenin thank you for the excerpt. So in short, she’s saying that these people hold the keys to other dimensions because of the lifestyle they choose? It’s not resonating with me at all.. and she’s the only person I’ve heard say this (there may have been a few more), but I’ve never heard anybody who specializes in our spirituality say this.

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              @Makiya Shani, her reasoning doesn’t jive with me either, and I’m not interested in those gates…

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            • Kwabena (edited)
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              @makiyasmack
              Sonbonfu Some is saying whenever a black man sticks his pen!s into another man’s shit-filled butthole that is an ancestral African spiritual practice.
              By performing this gay and/or lesbian homosexual LGBTQ ritual practice he is opening the gateway between the spirit world and the world of the village.
              This is how sick Sonbonfu Some and her husband is.
              That is why white folks LOVE them.
              This is the effect of the yurugu and crakkkertosis virus and cancer.

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                @Kwabena both of them have transitioned to the other side.

                I remember Patrice Some was doing a 1 day camp in LA and I was interested in attending, but when I realized where it was happening, I knew the crowd wasn’t going to be our people. He seemed to have really found a niche with non-Blacks.

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                  @Kwabena It is a natural aspect of human behavior to seek more knowledge and crave deeper spiritual insight. We’ve seen this across all continents and within various traditions, such as in Kemet, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism. Today is no exception, as there will always be people yearning for spiritual awakening or “master keys” to unlock realms of supernatural power or wisdom.

                  Sobonfu’s assertion that homosexuals possess access to spiritual gates unavailable even to elders might be interpreted as a cultural endorsement of homosexuality. It suggests that highest level of awakening could only be obtained by being gay, unless of course, the Dagara people view homosexuality not as a choice, but as an inherent trait one is born with.

                  In the Akan culture it’s straight forward

                  Ɔbaa ne ɔbarima hyia a, ɔbaa yɛ ɔbaa na ɔbarima nso yɛ ɔbarima.

                  When a woman and a man meet, the woman remains a woman and the man remains a man. 

                  ɔbarima hyɛ ɔbarima na ɔbaa hyɛ ɔbaa.

                  A man trains a man and a woman a woman.

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                  @Makiya Shani I bought that book a long time ago, but I didn’t read it after I saw that chapter. Matter of fact, the book looks like it has never been opened. However, I remembered that chapter, so I brought it out to share her perspective with you.

                  I found it bizarre that elders, especially wise ones, would need to go through a gatekeeper to access additional dimensions. This seems to contradict the essence of what it means to be a “Nana” (elder or ruler) in Akan culture.

                  • Kwabena (edited)
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                    @Tenkamenin
                    FACTS. What you are saying is TRUTH.
                    In one of the confessions of the 42 laws of Ma’at, the deceased had to confess, “I had not defiled myself”, “I had defiled my body”, “I have not had laid down with another man.” “I have not had sexual relations with another man.”
                    Our Great Ancestors were staunch opponents of any kind of gay lesbian homosexual LGBTQA deathstyle practices in the Black Community=Kmt.
                    Our Great Ancestors were very very very much against any type of homosexual gay lesbian LBGTQA deathstyle practices in the village and in the Black Community=Kmt.
                    Patrice and Sonbonfu Some are throwing away our Ancestral values, morals and code of conduct, and spitting in our Ancestors face, just so they can be accepted and validated by white peoples.

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                      @Tenkamenin
                      The Dagara people of Southern Burkina and Northern Ghana view gay homosexuality acts as any indigenous Kmt=Abibiman community. Homosexuality gay is taboo, dirty, inhumane, uncultured and looked down upon where ever you go on the Continent.
                      Sobonfu is trying to appeal and get validation and approval from his predominantly white audience.
                      I want you to go to Northern Ghana and in Burkina and start preaching to the men of Dagara, “gay homosexuality is not a choice, you was born to sleep with other men”, and see whether if you will make it alive.
                      Believe me, you will not make it out of the Dagara community in peace. And it is not even the men that are going to check you on that homosexual deathstyle filth, it is going to be Dagara women who are going to chop your head off.
                      That is why I know Sobonfu has been fully and deeply infected with the yurugu crakkkertosis Neanderthal virus cancer.

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                    @Tenkamenin

                    Another proverb that I love
                    Barima ne neɛ no tuo to “A man is the one whose gun is able to shoot and kill game”

                    Source: Owusu, M.A. and Boswiah, L. “Constructions of Masculinity among the Akan people of Ghana” (2015)

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                  • Sudan (edited)
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                    They need to put all gay men on their own island and all gay women on another. They’ll all just die off. It’s not a lifestyle; it’s a deathstyle. They won’t even acknowledge that their own existence is predicated on the union of a male and a female.

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                    • Some years back, I asked a colleague who is Dagao (singular) about it and he said if the Dagaaba elders find out that you are gay “They will finish you.” meaning kill you. He said he was familiar with the Somés and that they were spreading that misinformation to get money from the “white” people who bankroll them. He who pays the piper calls the tune.