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I signed in to take part in a discussion I saw between @AfroN8V and @bakari-kwento about how The Motherland should be addressed but I no longer see it. Just wanted to say, I agree that we should use the proper names. Anything less is a disservice to say the least. People gotta be met where they are but I think that can apply only to a certain extent. I think our unwillingness to take the initiative and stand on what we know has been and continues to be what sets us back.
Just my take on that discussion. Peace.
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@nonmwense-abibi Peace brotha. What are the proper names from your perspective? if they are the two terms being discussed i.e., KMT which is usually only used for Ancient “Egypt” and Abibiman which is a Twi word that only Akan people would know, how would the millions of other Black people know the proper names? Discussion, it is located here https://www.abibitumi.com/members/intwinaka/activity/546929/?rid=4349929#acomment-547378
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@AfroN8V Greetings. And thank you for the link. Had seen that post actually but it didn’t even cross my mind that that was where the aforementioned discussion was taking place haha. I’ll respond there. Peace.
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@AfroN8V Ok I see how I overlooked said post. Can only see the post and not the comments after signing in. Unable to comment there as well.
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@nonmwense-abibi I fixed the issue…you should be straight now
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@AfroN8V Gotta be a member of that group to be able to see the comments and to be able to comment as well I think. Don’t see how I can join the group either. If it’s not a problem I’ll just respond here.
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Peace @nonmwense-abibi , If you don’t see an option to join the group, maybe @Kalanfa_Naka can send you an invite.
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@nonmwense-abibi it’s a public group so should be able to hit join.
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@AfroN8V Nope don’t see a join button
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@nonmwense-abibi hmm that’s strange
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The Proper name(s) for The Motherland are the names that make sense for it. The name(s) have to be from us and represent us accurately.
As I’ve stated on this platform before I actually disagree with the use of the word KMT. Not because there is anything wrong with the word KMT itself. Here’s a little breakdown: There are several reasons why I don’t approve of pushing forth the word KMT as the word to move forward with. At least, not at this moment. But to make this short, I don’t approve of us skipping over our present Languages/Cultures and jumping to KMT as if our present Languages/Cultures hold no value. Or as if they are “lesser than”.
Not to mention, we have not even established nor institutionalized the scholarship necessary to really bring forth KMT (a word from over 2500 years ago) as the present name for The Continent.
(the continent concept itself needs to also be addressed btw)
Here’s a a few questions to think about: Are we being guided by our own scholarship? Our own concepts?
I think the name we should use is any name that is from us (our Languages our worldviews) that accurately represents us.
Abibiman, Farafinna (and many others) are great names for The Motherland. I think we should use those.
We don’t, certainly not at this stage, at least, need to decide on one name.
We can, however, agree on one meaning.
The Land Of Black People. I agree with this formulation.
As for the other point you bought up, as long as we are saying this is the Land Of Black People, I don’t think saying that in our different Languages should be seen as a sign of incoherence or disunity. In fact that would mean the exact opposite.
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@nonmwense-abibi hey brotha I love how we’re critical thinkers. I didn’t know that was your position. Even among “Afrikan-centered” circles I would have to explain using KMT for the whole Motherland, because for them and most of us it means only ancient “Egypt”, so even in those very KMT-centered circles, there would need to be some persuasion to expand it out to the continent. I also use Abibiman. In my class I am introducing these terms and making that point about Africa being disputed as an indigenous term, and so we have other terms within our languages, and that is part of the Sankɔfa process to rename ourselves as Mama Mambo Ama Mazama so beautifully spoke about. The class is called Sankɔfa Black to Us. Therefore, I will use the terms interchangeably because when I’m providing reference materials for our students from our best scholars’ materials whether in literary or video format, they use African/Afrikan interchangeably with Black, (e.g., Mama Marimba Ani, Baba Mwalimu Baruti, Chinweizu, Cheikh Anta Diop, Mama Ama Mazama, Nana Kimbwandende Kia Bunseki Fu-Kiau, Ayi Kwei Armah, Nana Kwame Agyei Akoto, Nana Amos Wilson). The last point you made is the most important to me, as I will be directly stating Black people are the indigenous people of the Motherland, it is the Black Motherland, and this can carry over to any eurasian language. Would like to hear more on what you meant here: “(the continent concept itself needs to also be addressed btw)”.
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@AfroN8V KMT (as far as we know) indeed only means a particular area (and time) anchored to the Hapi river. That is indeed it’s only true correspondence as of today. I see the argument for using it for the whole continent but as I’ve said before not even the ground work has been laid out for that to even really be a discussion.
Considering the precedents, using Black and Afrika/Africa interchangeably has it’s place but this is about growing. This is about building. This is about taking the next step. This is about taking the necessary steps.
If you ask me it’s actually appalling that we are still using the word Africa/Afrika. What is in the way of us getting rid of it? We’ve been clear on it’s origin for decades. What’s stopping us?
Our scholars from back then had the necessary information to change it. Our scholars today have even more tools in general at their disposal. What’s stopping them?
Not only is “Africa” still used today by almost all of our top scholars (if not all of them on an “official note”) but so is “Egypt” when referring to KMT. What does that say?
As for the Continental concept. I just want us to be clear on everything that we use. Do we agree with that concept. Why or why not. Does that concept benefit us. What are it’s origins. Do we have better ideas for how to designate different parts of our planet etc etc.
I want us to be in charge of everything that we do.
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@nonmwense-abibi I overstand
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@nonmwense-abibi I appreciate your input.
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@nonmwense-abibi Land of Black People in any indigenous language in your space and time – I agree better any terms we are given by others. When we use Land of Black people it itself becomes a universal understanding – Ayiti for example would be Land of Black People – and they demonsrated in action. With this it would be that if I travel to any part of the land mass it would known as Land of the Black People – I am cool…then what do we do with that understanding with those that are stealing our resources from the Land of the Black People….this where the study of Kmt beyond the glory is required…what did they do based on that understanding that this is the Land of Black People…what was policy internally and externally with foreigners to the land – comparingly to the Ayiti revolution…this is a healthy conversation..
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@AgyaKwadwo Indeed the formulation that is The Land Of Black People is clear and affirmative and the parallels with Ayiti is certainly just as notable.
I think the same can be said for Burkina Faso as well (been thought that btw).
Land Of The Upright. Who are The Upright? What is upright? Truth is upright. Who on this planet values truth? Who on this planet doesn’t?
But yes none is more clear (as far as I know at least) than The Land Of Black People.
I don’t know of the exact etymology for Ayiti. I have plans to look more deeply into it actually.
I know Aye/Ayi means land. And I have some theories about Ayiti’s full name Ayiti Toma but that’s all that I’ve been able to piece together thus far. I wonder: does Ayiti literally mean The Land Of Black People as well? We’ll see.
For sure though, Ayiti is a country by Black People and for Black People only, as stated in our Constitution. That is it’s promise.
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Peace @snKwaku ‘preciate the shout out thank you
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@nonmwense-abibi yɛnni aseda
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@AgyaKwadwo That’s what’s up Thank you✊🏿
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@nonmwense-abibi no doubt…
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