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        Shade Jefferson Ford posted an update in the group Group logo of Kmtyw (Black People) SpiritualityAfrikan Spirituality

        6 years ago

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        Oya, the Yoruba orisha of storms and cemeteries. I received this in the mail earlier this month.

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          Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé
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          What do those crosses at her feet represent?

          6 years ago
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            Shade
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            Those are cross headstones. They represent her connection with cemeteries. Oya guards all cemetery entrances.

            6 years ago
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              Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé
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              Are cross headstones part of Yorùbá culture?

              6 years ago
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                Shade
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                No. These cross headstones are a reflection of the Cuban Santerian aspect of Oya. Actual crossroads are true Yoruba symbols since shrines honoring the orishas are often set up at those type of locations.

                6 years ago
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              Ann
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              Those crosses really made me question this picture! The Christian Cross!

              6 years ago
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                Shade
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                Yes,a Celtic Cross on the left and a Latin Cross on the right. The Cuban Santerian “touch.” To make it totally Yoruba Ifa, the bottom part should just have Oya standing at a crossroad.

                6 years ago
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              Shade
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              The danger is not recognizing the Eurocentric symbolism when it’s combined with Afrikan. These crosses reflect Oya’s Santerian aspect. Cuban Santeria is a combination of Yoruba and Catholicism. I bought this for I saw far more Yoruba symbolism than Catholic.

              6 years ago
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                Kalanfa
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                a corrupted image is still an corrupted image. that symbolism in the background does what to our minds?

                6 years ago
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                  Shade
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                  It stings our minds. Even with something as minor as this. When I first saw this , I was attracted to the Yoruba symbolism in the foreground, but I felt a slight sting once my eyes moved to the European crosses at the bottom. This kind of thing can also inspire one to find an item that’s 💯% Afrikan. In the future, I hope I can order ftom Abibitumi an Oya shirt that totally reflects Yoruba. If a cross symbol is to be featured, use a crossroads image.

                  6 years ago
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                    Kalanfa
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                    ah, you wrote, you want to order this item. now, there is one place i found state side
                    https://www.owamarket.com/
                    does anyone know of this place?
                    with a huge population in Nigeria, we should be able to find that shirt with no issue. Can anyone find a shop that sells shirts/items on Youruba?

                    6 years ago
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                      Shade
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                      I thank you for informing me about Owamarket. They didn’t have an Oya shirt on display. So, I emailed them about the availability of such a shirt.

                      6 years ago
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                Ann
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                Right on!!!

                6 years ago
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                  Shade
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                  🖤

                  6 years ago
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